Old Indonesia derby


Indonesia Super Big Match or Old Indonesia Derby is the name given in football to any match between fierce rivals Persija Jakarta and Persib Bandung. The rivalry between the both teams begins since 1933 at that time Persija Jakarta and Persib Bandung competed to become champions in 1933 Perserikatan and Persija came out as champions while Persib was runner-up. But, the rivalry between the two teams began to heat up since the 2000s. with the hostility of supporters, and has spread both sides as a prestigious match in Indonesian Football.

Results

Official match results

Source:
Data Incomplete

Perserikatan era

Liga Indonesia era

Head-to-head results overall

Data Incomplete
Persija wins33
Draws36
Persib wins32
Persija goals117
Persib goals124
Total Matches101

Records

Data from 2007-08 Liga Indonesia Premier Division
As 10 July 2019

Most appearances

PositionPlayerTeamCaps
1 Ismed SofyanPersija Jakarta18
2 Atep RizalPersija Persib 16
3 Maman AbdurrahmanPersib Persija 15
4 HarionoPersib Bandung14
5 Bambang PamungkasPersija Jakarta13
5 Tony SuciptoPersija Persib 13
7 Abanda HermanPersija Persib 11
8 AmarzukihPersija Jakarta9
8 Andritany ArdhiyasaPersija Jakarta9
10 Muhammad IlhamPersija Persib 8

Top goalscorer

PositionPlayerTeamGoals
1 Bambang PamungkasPersija Jakarta4
2 Cristian GonzálesPersib Bandung3
2 Abanda HermanPersija Persib 3
2 Sergio van DijkPersib Bandung3
5 AliyudinPersija Jakarta2
5 Ramdani LestaluhuPersija Jakarta2
5 Christian BekamengaPersib Bandung2
5 Jaimerson XavierPersija Jakarta2

Clean sheet

PlayersPersija clean sheetPersib clean sheetTotal
Andritany Ardhiyasa5-5
I Made Wirawan-33
Evgeny Khmaruk1-1
Tema Mursadat-11
Sinthaweechai Hathairattanakool-11
Muhammad Yasir1-1
Hendro Kartiko1-1
Jendry Ch Pitoy-11
Daryono1-1
Muhammad Natshir-11

Men in both teams

Note:

Persija then Persib

PlayerPersijaPersib
Fabiano Beltrame2011-20142019-present
Raphael Maitimo20152017
Robertino Pugliara2007–2009, 2011-20132016
Firman Utina20102013-2015
Jendri Pitoy20112011–2012
Mohammad Nasuha2010–20112011–2013
Aliyudin2007–20112011–2012
M. Ilham2007–2011, 2013, 2015–20162011–2012
Tony Sucipto2010–2011, 2019-present2011–2018
Abanda Herman2006–20102011-2013
Baihakki Khaizan2009–20102010
Budi Sudarsono2001–2002, 2003–20042009–2010
Atep2004–20082008–2018
Lorenzo Cabanas20052007–2009
Sonny Kurniawan2006–20072007–2008
Ayock Berty2004–20052006
Charis Yulianto2005–20062006–2007
Gendut Doni20022006
Antônio Cláudio2001–20032005-2006
Imran Nahumarury2000–20032004
Nur'alim20012004
Alexander Pulalo2001–20032004
Suwandi H.S.20002004
Andrian Mardiansyah1999–20012002
Harry Saputra1999–20002002
Luís Simões1995–19972001

Persib then Persija

PlayerPersibPersija
Rachmad Hidayat20162019
Shahar Ginanjar2013-20152018-present
Asri Akbar20132018
Maman Abdurrahman2008–20132016–present
Djibril Coulibaly20142016
Rachmat Afandi2010–20112011–2014
Salim Alaydrus2006–20092009
Erik Setiawan2002, 2004–20082009–2010
Harry Salisbury2008–20092009–2010
Fábio Lopes20082009
Marwal Iskandar20032006
Andi Supendi1999–2000, 20042003
Khair Rifo1997–19981999–2000

Head coaches who coached for both clubs

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Honours

Supporters

Their supporters have never met after the start of hostilities between supporters of Persija and Persib in the 2000s, to date. Many conflicts occur including the death of one of the supporters and clashes which resulted in injury.

Persija Jakarta

Persija Jakarta's supporters called The Jakmania. Founded in 1997 by Gugun Gondrong and Ferry Indrasjarief with orange colour as their identity. The Jakmania is one of the biggest football club supporters in Indonesia.

Persib Bandung

Persib fans often refer to themselves as Bobotoh, this name comes from the Sundanese language. Literally as people provide support, spirit and encouragement, for those who do the match. There are several groups of Persib supporters but the most famous are Viking Persib Club and Flowers City Casuals .

Tragedy

Two biggest tragedy occurred on March 5 2012, when Rangga Cipta Nugraha was beaten to the ground with a stadium bench only because he cheered happily when the Persib player scored, some say that the blood on his head did not stop pouring even until he was put into a grave.
Another tragedy happened on September 23, 2018, when before the match begins, one of the Jakmania members, Haringga Sirla, was killed by some unscrupulous host fans. Condolences for Haringga also flowed from the netizens throughout social media

Reconciliation

Until now, many parties want these two supporters to unite, but there are still many who provoke either from The Jakmania or Bobotoh, whether on social media or in real life. The dark past makes these two supporters difficult to unite, even to the point that there is a slogan, "Biarkan Permusuhan Ini Tetap Abadi", which means, "Let This Feud Remain Eternal" from one of the main figure Bobotoh frontman.